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  • 1.  ASHP labor cost

    Posted 09-26-2022 19:01
    So we are getting ready to start installing ASHP in residential homes, and I wanted to get some opinions on labor costs for installations just to get an idea. I thought to help make things somewhat easier, I could ask for an average price for a straightforward, little complication installation of

    One compressor, one head:
    One compressor, two heads:
    One compressor, three heads:
    One compressor, four heads:

    This information would be very valuable to us, at least allow us to start and learn as we go.

    Thank you!

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    Luis Hernandez
    Field specialist
    Gaia Sharbel Energy Contracting
    Poughkeepsie NY
    845-3806715
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  • 2.  RE: ASHP labor cost

    Posted 09-27-2022 12:20
    Hi Luis

    Just an observation and to make sure we are all using the same terminology here...

    It appears that you are not referring to a conventional split system air source heat pump but rather a ductless or "mini-split" heat pump. Is that correct?

    Best, Eric

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    Eric Miller
    Energy Services
    Benton REA
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  • 3.  RE: ASHP labor cost

    Posted 09-27-2022 12:56
    Hey Eric,


    Yes, ductless mini-split heat pumps! So the works include heat loss calculation and equipment installation. Any suggestions?

    Also, I have been told that Fujitsu has proprietary design software, but no one seems to know much about that.

    Thanks

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    Luis Hernandez
    Field specialist
    Gaia Sharbel Energy Contracting
    Poughkeepsie NY
    845-3806715
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  • 4.  RE: ASHP labor cost

    BPA Staff Member
    Posted 09-27-2022 12:32
    Hi Luis,
    We at the Association aren't equipped to answer these specific costing questions.
    Our friends over at Air Conditioning Contractors of America have resources to help, and i have personally attend HVACR School where I learned a lot about the business.
    Pricing ranges dramatically from place to place and product to product.   I suggest networking with your local HVAC contractors to see what prices look like in your area.
    Thanks so much,
    Xavier​

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    Xavier Walter
    State Outreach
    Building Performance Association
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  • 5.  RE: ASHP labor cost

    Posted 09-27-2022 13:04
    Hey Xavier, 

     Thanks for your reply! I thought everyone understood that if I am asking here, it was sort of a last desperate resort. I tried asking everyone in my network, including suppliers, and I keep getting the same answer: it all depends... The closest I got to an answer was that they charge one and a half times over the cost of materials, but that to me seems very high (maybe they want me to bid high, so I lose those bids as they perhaps think of me as competition, who knows). I am located upstate NY





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    Luis Hernandez
    Field specialist
    Gaia Sharbel Energy Contracting
    Poughkeepsie NY
    845-3806715
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  • 6.  RE: ASHP labor cost

    Posted 09-27-2022 17:02
    Luis, 
    We certainly empathize and understand your pain in trying to find this. Unfortunately, in any home improvement process there are so many variables that (As Xavier said) vary from market to market and product to product. This is where industry experience is invaluable. I'm sorry your local suppliers are not able to be more help. I may be way off here, but here is my two cents.
    Here is Texas, you might get to one appointment a day, maybe four, just depending on how far apart they are and the market. Since I deal more in insulation, I would tell you that some things are easy to install while others may not be... even with just different manufacturers. Then there is your crew. There are rockstars who go at twice the speed of others, as well as job sites that require going half the speed of others. This can make the bidding process daunting. That said, if you know how long it takes a specific installer, to put in a specific unit, you can then start the process of job costing. After that you can get more job specific in terms of distance to the project, job site conditions, etc. I remember when foam manufacturers were telling people to just double what a set cost. This can be a recipe for disaster. You really need specifics when you are gauging costs of installation. If I were you, I might press a little harder on those suppliers though. You never know how much wisdom, or lack of, comes out after a little pizza and beer.

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    Ken Allison Allison
    Training & Business Development
    IDI Distributors
    Arlington TX
    682-2065622
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